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Isopyrum thalictroides
Year 2021, Issue 4, Article 7ProvingAuthor: Michaela Zorzi
Proving: Trituration; C1-C3; 6-4-2019 Ritzing Burgenland; Michaela Zorzi et al.
Provers: P1, P2, P3, P4 all femaleWe find the plant nearby a brook, close to a flank of a hill, shadowy, humid. The plant with a tough stem and two tiny white blossoms, soft leaves. Two deep roots and a wonderful symmetric web of small roots like a network.C1
We start with a lot of anger P3 coming one hour late not having realized yet time had changed to summertime because of the clock in her car, which she had not adapted yet.
But we are dependent on her, because she has the milk sugar, the scale - so we cannot start without her, we need her participation.
A lot of anger, because she is disregarding our appointment, she is ignoring our schedule.
When P3 arrives the atmosphere is loaded with emotions, but nobody is talking about it in the beginning.
P2 says, she is climbing up a mountain. Nobody wants to join her, so she is hiking alone. 1
P4 cannot keep silent, tries to harmonize and starts to talk about the anger and disappointment in the group. P3 is cut off the group.
P3 immediately starts to apologize 3 and to explain the reasons for her delay. This increases the anger of the others. She can do nothing to calm down. But she herself remains quiet 10 and self-confident, because she knows she cannot change her delay any more. That increases the anger again – P4 tries to calm the situation down, in a way all try to stabilize the group and the process.
The milk powder is green, an intense green like in spring. It is amazing, it remains green until the first part of C2.
“Grün hinter den Ohren sein” in German means to be adolescent, not to be adult yet.
We think about the concept of time. P3 says time is hard to grasp for her, she loves to float, being out of time, in the now. P1 starts to get angry about it again, this is not professional, we are coming together for work and not for private reasons, one has to be in time.
P3´s father always had been late, her mother too. It is part of the family system. Being late - time is not important. Now her father suffers from Morbus Parkinson, he is fixed to bed, cannot be late any longer, has to be in time, has to listen to his children, cannot flee any longer.
The father of P4´s children has been coming late since years in every day life situations, at appointments causing a lot of disappointment and anger and mortification in his children and former wife. Fleeing from daily life, avoiding responsibility, but feeling great with it. He often says: I am like that. Does not honestly apologize, always has a lot of explanations, why he is late. Does not care about the mortification and anger of the others. Always laughing and joking about it, not taking the others and their time and schedules for serious. He has a lot of anxiety of getting old, wants to live his lifetime at the utmost. Childish behavior.
P4 headache, pressure in the front, itching on the tip of the tongue, buzzing in both ears, cold feet
P3, P4 dry mouth, a lot of thirst, longing for cold water.C2thirsty
P4 remarks the issue of parents not being present, not being IN TIME with their sons and daughters, who are suffering from it, are not taken serious in their needs. remembering a young woman, who committed suicide last week, slitted her wrists, it's the time bringing her from life to death, what severe and dark emotions did she suffer from? She had been one of four children from a successful family, both busy parents, not being in time, not realizing the needs of her daughter? No borders or too narrow borders from her parents? Resignation or protest?
Unexpected occurences.
Now the milk sugar changes the color to white.
P2 remembering her father, she is getting very angry about his attempts to restrict her liberty, she always had been obstreperous, in resistance to his way of living.
To give time a structure means getting adult, no childlike playing with time, no chronic delays.
P3 had forgotten the milk sugar for the C3. She tries to tell us, that we did only the C2 several triturations in the past, P4 is getting very angry, because this is not true, it seems like an excuse, P1 first endorses with P3, seems like calming down P4´s anger, but then corrects her memory. It is our time, which is not taken serious again, we ask P3 if she thinks that she will once learn coming in time, she has tears in her eyes, one can feel her despair about that issue. She is not sure if she will be able to change it. We have to continue the C3 the day after with only two persons.
C3
Starts the next day only with P3 and P4 in the home of P4, because P3 had forgotten the milk powder for the third trituration.
Now we start in time and without anger.
Our dream of a harmonic and ideal group has gone the day before?
The reality is the disharmony, but we all tried to stay in contact, to get out of the difficult situation – but also with self-confidence – each P in his own dignity and understatement.
The solution is to harmonize emotions, to get independent from others, to take ones responsibility. Time is full of meaning. Waiting as a kind of inner process of healing. Waiting gets a deeper meaning. To be able to wait and in the same time not to wait is the result of an inner process of independency – and responsibility for oneself. A process of clearing away the EGO.
Waiting for the ideal relationship – the father who does not set boundaries – waiting for him without pleasing - better than to be in a bad relationship - and waiting with pleasing in a metaphysic way: pleasing as the capacity to hold on in relationships.
So the wide spread web with strong roots and a stable stem and soft blossoms and leaves are getting a new sensible meaning for us.
Not being timeless any longer - to be in responsibility for the group. And at the same time being timeless in the now as an adult, time is meaningless – waiting without waiting.
Observations the days after the trituration:
P4 vivid dreams from her childhood, one sitting on the beach as a child holding a baby in her arms, the group waiting for her father, who went for a walk, was not there. when he is back, reprimands from a girl she should have taken care for the group, guilty feelings she did not realize and then she says I had no father, who could have told me to do so, she is crying in the dream, the words “no father, no border, no commitment” are coming to her mind.
Then she is wearing all green clothes with great confidence and her colleagues say to her “you look like a frog” – and she immediately thinks on the fairytale of the Frog King, timeless playing, demanding, a lot of anger and the father who claims to keep the promise.Bodily complaintslumbago, tearing pain in both hips and feet
heart palpitations
P1 memories of her childhood, retreat in nature from duties at home, in spring with lots of anemones, dirty shoes, which she polished carefully coming home punctually. Her father was very concerned about being on time, her mother had a lot of stress with it.
P2 lot of anger because of being pressed for time from her partner when making a trip with the children.
Conclusion:
Issue of “Time” pressure - delay - no father - no border – no commitment to the group - anger - lack of responsibility – childlike - waiting
642 - everyday life, group, anger because of the offended Ego
phase 1 ideals of behavior in the group, alone
phase 3 pleasing and guilty feeling, apologize, explaining, justify
stage 10? haughty, confident, she will withstand the anger of the others
Provers: P1, P2, P3, P4 all femaleWe find the plant nearby a brook, close to a flank of a hill, shadowy, humid. The plant with a tough stem and two tiny white blossoms, soft leaves. Two deep roots and a wonderful symmetric web of small roots like a network.C1
We start with a lot of anger P3 coming one hour late not having realized yet time had changed to summertime because of the clock in her car, which she had not adapted yet.
But we are dependent on her, because she has the milk sugar, the scale - so we cannot start without her, we need her participation.
A lot of anger, because she is disregarding our appointment, she is ignoring our schedule.
When P3 arrives the atmosphere is loaded with emotions, but nobody is talking about it in the beginning.
P2 says, she is climbing up a mountain. Nobody wants to join her, so she is hiking alone. 1
P4 cannot keep silent, tries to harmonize and starts to talk about the anger and disappointment in the group. P3 is cut off the group.
P3 immediately starts to apologize 3 and to explain the reasons for her delay. This increases the anger of the others. She can do nothing to calm down. But she herself remains quiet 10 and self-confident, because she knows she cannot change her delay any more. That increases the anger again – P4 tries to calm the situation down, in a way all try to stabilize the group and the process.
The milk powder is green, an intense green like in spring. It is amazing, it remains green until the first part of C2.
“Grün hinter den Ohren sein” in German means to be adolescent, not to be adult yet.
We think about the concept of time. P3 says time is hard to grasp for her, she loves to float, being out of time, in the now. P1 starts to get angry about it again, this is not professional, we are coming together for work and not for private reasons, one has to be in time.
P3´s father always had been late, her mother too. It is part of the family system. Being late - time is not important. Now her father suffers from Morbus Parkinson, he is fixed to bed, cannot be late any longer, has to be in time, has to listen to his children, cannot flee any longer.
The father of P4´s children has been coming late since years in every day life situations, at appointments causing a lot of disappointment and anger and mortification in his children and former wife. Fleeing from daily life, avoiding responsibility, but feeling great with it. He often says: I am like that. Does not honestly apologize, always has a lot of explanations, why he is late. Does not care about the mortification and anger of the others. Always laughing and joking about it, not taking the others and their time and schedules for serious. He has a lot of anxiety of getting old, wants to live his lifetime at the utmost. Childish behavior.
P4 headache, pressure in the front, itching on the tip of the tongue, buzzing in both ears, cold feet
P3, P4 dry mouth, a lot of thirst, longing for cold water.C2thirsty
P4 remarks the issue of parents not being present, not being IN TIME with their sons and daughters, who are suffering from it, are not taken serious in their needs. remembering a young woman, who committed suicide last week, slitted her wrists, it's the time bringing her from life to death, what severe and dark emotions did she suffer from? She had been one of four children from a successful family, both busy parents, not being in time, not realizing the needs of her daughter? No borders or too narrow borders from her parents? Resignation or protest?
Unexpected occurences.
Now the milk sugar changes the color to white.
P2 remembering her father, she is getting very angry about his attempts to restrict her liberty, she always had been obstreperous, in resistance to his way of living.
To give time a structure means getting adult, no childlike playing with time, no chronic delays.
P3 had forgotten the milk sugar for the C3. She tries to tell us, that we did only the C2 several triturations in the past, P4 is getting very angry, because this is not true, it seems like an excuse, P1 first endorses with P3, seems like calming down P4´s anger, but then corrects her memory. It is our time, which is not taken serious again, we ask P3 if she thinks that she will once learn coming in time, she has tears in her eyes, one can feel her despair about that issue. She is not sure if she will be able to change it. We have to continue the C3 the day after with only two persons.
C3
Starts the next day only with P3 and P4 in the home of P4, because P3 had forgotten the milk powder for the third trituration.
Now we start in time and without anger.
Our dream of a harmonic and ideal group has gone the day before?
The reality is the disharmony, but we all tried to stay in contact, to get out of the difficult situation – but also with self-confidence – each P in his own dignity and understatement.
The solution is to harmonize emotions, to get independent from others, to take ones responsibility. Time is full of meaning. Waiting as a kind of inner process of healing. Waiting gets a deeper meaning. To be able to wait and in the same time not to wait is the result of an inner process of independency – and responsibility for oneself. A process of clearing away the EGO.
Waiting for the ideal relationship – the father who does not set boundaries – waiting for him without pleasing - better than to be in a bad relationship - and waiting with pleasing in a metaphysic way: pleasing as the capacity to hold on in relationships.
So the wide spread web with strong roots and a stable stem and soft blossoms and leaves are getting a new sensible meaning for us.
Not being timeless any longer - to be in responsibility for the group. And at the same time being timeless in the now as an adult, time is meaningless – waiting without waiting.
Observations the days after the trituration:
P4 vivid dreams from her childhood, one sitting on the beach as a child holding a baby in her arms, the group waiting for her father, who went for a walk, was not there. when he is back, reprimands from a girl she should have taken care for the group, guilty feelings she did not realize and then she says I had no father, who could have told me to do so, she is crying in the dream, the words “no father, no border, no commitment” are coming to her mind.
Then she is wearing all green clothes with great confidence and her colleagues say to her “you look like a frog” – and she immediately thinks on the fairytale of the Frog King, timeless playing, demanding, a lot of anger and the father who claims to keep the promise.Bodily complaintslumbago, tearing pain in both hips and feet
heart palpitations
P1 memories of her childhood, retreat in nature from duties at home, in spring with lots of anemones, dirty shoes, which she polished carefully coming home punctually. Her father was very concerned about being on time, her mother had a lot of stress with it.
P2 lot of anger because of being pressed for time from her partner when making a trip with the children.
Conclusion:
Issue of “Time” pressure - delay - no father - no border – no commitment to the group - anger - lack of responsibility – childlike - waiting
642 - everyday life, group, anger because of the offended Ego
phase 1 ideals of behavior in the group, alone
phase 3 pleasing and guilty feeling, apologize, explaining, justify
stage 10? haughty, confident, she will withstand the anger of the others